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How other royals reacted to losing their titles after Andrew becomes commoner

Royals who have been stripped of their titles with various London elements in the background.
There is a long history of royals who have been stripped of their titles (Picture: Metro/ getty)

Deep rifts, humiliation and anger: Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor is now one of the many royals who have lost their beloved titles.

Disgraced Andrew was stripped of the last of his remaining titles on Monday, leaving him as a simple commoner.

The King’s brother had already lost his Duke of York and prince monikers, and is now no longer a member of the Order of the Garter, or a Knight of the Grand Cross of the Royal Victoria Order.

Royal commentators and even a palace butler say other royals who suffered a similar fate have struggled to ever adjust and remained bitter for decades.

epa12461118 (FILE) - Britain's Prince Andrew, the Duke of York, departs after the Coronation of Britain's King Charles III and Queen Camilla at Westminster Abbey, London, Britain, 06 May 2023 (reissued 17 October 2025). Prince Andrew gives up his title of the Duke of York and the membership in the Order of the Garter, due to his links to the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, as he announced in a statement on 17 October 2025. EPA/ANDY RAIN
Andrew is now a simple commoner (Picture: EPA)

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Expert Richard Fitzwilliams told Metro: ‘It is a unique humiliation. Titles shouldn’t mean as much as they used to, but they do.

‘The reason for this is a title if it is part of you, whether you have married into it or not. It is personally precious.’

Butler Grant Harrold, who served the then Prince of Wales at his private residence at Highgrove from 2004 to 2011, said: ‘Royals do have a problem adjusting to life without their titles as they believe their titles are a given right.’

He revealed the King once told him: ‘When you acknowledge or bow or courtesy, it is not to the person, it is to the title.’

Metro take a look at the people who left The Firm – and how they’ve fared.

King Edward VIII

The Duke of Windsor (1894-1972) sitting at a desk, which is strewn with books and paperwork in Goverment House in Nassau, the Bahamas, circa 1942. The Duke of Windsor served as Governor of the Bahamas from 1940 to 1945. (Photo by Ivan Dmitri/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
The Duke of Windsor circa 1942 (Picture: Getty Images/Michael Ochs Archives)

One of the most famous title losses in British history saw King Edward VIII abdicate over his marriage to twice-divorcee Wallis Simpson.

His successor, King George VI, made Edward the Duke of Windsor and Wallis the Duchess of Windsor, but Wallis was denied the style ‘Her Royal Highness’ (HRH).

This decision was against royal practice and triggered a lifelong animosity from the pair that caused chaos for the royals.

Mr Fitzwilliams explained: ‘He never forgave it. His later behaviour towards the royal family was heavily influenced by what he saw as a deliberate personal swipe.

‘It is reported that on his deathbed, he requested that Queen Elizabeth give Wallis the title.’

The Duke vowed never to return to England unless Wallis was an HRH.

While he did come back, alone for his brother’s funeral, Wallis never got the title she sought.

Princess Diana

MOSCOW, RUSSIA - JUNE 15: Princess Diana In Moscow During Her Visit To Russia. (Photo by Tim Graham Photo Library via Getty Images)
Diana lost her HRH title after he divorce from the now King (Picture: Tim Graham Photo Library via Getty Images)

After her divorce with then Prince Charles was finalised in 1996, Diana lost her HRH (Her Royal Highness) title.

The loss of this honour sent her down the proverbial pecking order and meant she was no longer entitled to curtseys, bows and other acknowledgements.

It was reported at the time that technically Diana had to curtsy to those who still had the HRH title, including even her own children and ex-husbands.

She was reportedly upset by the decision, with reports also claiming then 14-year-old William has vowed to give it back to her.

Despite this, the Princess of Wales still received many of the same formalities from members of the public.

Mr Harrold, who also worked as a butler for Harry and William, explained: ‘Once you have been a royal, even if you have lost your title, people still treat you like a royal.

‘You still get VIP treatment. You are still a celebrity and carry that status. I have witnessed it first hand.

‘Diana was always seen as the Princess of Wales. People may not have referred to her as ‘Your Royal Highness”, I still saw people bowing and curtseying to her. This showed people still saw her as a royal.’

Prince Harry & Meghan

WHISTLER, BRITISH COLUMBIA - FEBRUARY 10: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex attend the Whistler Welcome Celebration during day two of the 2025 Invictus Games on February 10, 2025 in Whistler, British Columbia. (Photo by Karwai Tang/WireImage)
Harry and Meghan are retained their Duke and Duchess of Sussex titles (Picture: Karwai Tang/WireImage)

After stepping back as working royals in 2020, Prince Harry, together with his wife Meghan retained their titles of Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

However the pair agreed not to use ‘HRH and to give up official royal duties and funding.

This has become a sticking point for the pair, who are often accused of trying to cache in on their royal status.

This was thrown into the spotlight when it was revealed in a Harper’s Bazaar interview with Meghan revealed a house manager called out ‘Duchess of Sussex’ when she entered a room.

Mr Fitzwilliams says the couple have ‘capably skated around that’ agreement as much as they can because they ‘know what cachet titles have’.

The commentator branded the moment ‘ridiculous’, while other royal experts leapt to Meghan’s defence, saying Americans ‘get very excited’ about titles.

What next for Andrew?

Mandatory Credit: Photo by NEIL HALL/EPA/Shutterstock (15546969a) (FILE) - Britain's Prince Andrew departs Westminster Cathedral in London, Britain, 16 September 2025 (reissued 17 October 2025). Prince Andrew gives up his title of the Duke of York and the membership in the Order of the Garter, due to his links to the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, as he announced in a statement on 17 October 2025. Prince Andrew gives up his title of the Duke of York, London, United Kingdom - 16 Sep 2025
Andrew will no longer be known as a prince after he was stripped of all his titles (Picture: NEIL HALL/EPA/Shutterstock)

Mr Harrold, who spent years inside the fold, reckons the former Prince might struggle with the loss of his titles.

He said: ‘Andrew will find it difficult. He will begrudge no longer having the royal trappings.’

One issue which remains for the royal family is Andrew’s dukedom in York.

Mr Fitzwilliams believes it will take a very long time before that title is ever handed to another royal.

He explained: ‘The extraordinary thing about certain titles is that they are associated with those who held it. The York title is identified with Andrew.

‘In any road or school which is named after Andrew, they are now trying to change it.

‘It will be a long time before those titles are used again.’

Andrew is still eighth in line for the throne, and the government says it has no plans to pass a law to formally remove Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor from the order.

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Netflix quietly removes popular phone feature — leaving users fuming

Netflix logo on a phone
Whether it’s removing people’s favourite shows or making changes to the subscription model, Netflix does, on occasion, make a move that leaves its subscribers a bit unhappy. And its latest change has already attracted criticism from those who use their phones to watch the streaming platform. (Picture: Getty Images)
The company has announced that it has stopped the ability to cast video directly from phones to a larger TV screen – a change which many have said came last month without warning. Instead, you’ll have to pick up the remote and browse Netflix on the TV itself, which also means having to use the often-slow TV search function rather than the speedy phone keyboard to find the titles you want. (Picture: Getty Images)
‘Netflix no longer supports casting shows from a mobile device to most TVs and TV-streaming devices,’ the streaming platform said on its website. ‘You’ll need to use the remote that came with your TV or TV-streaming device to navigate Netflix.’ (Picture: Getty Images)
Casting has long been viewed as a way of sharing content with others, or just watching Netflix on a larger screen on other TVs – for example if you’re staying in a hotel or holiday home – with many using a device such as Google Chromecast, which allows you to stream from your phone to a TV. (Picture: Getty Images)
However, only those who have older Chromecasts, such as the original 2013 device, will be able to continue casting. And as Netflix explains on its website: ‘If you’re on an ad-supported experience, you won’t be able to use your TV as a display for Netflix content playing on your mobile device’. Which means you’ll have to be on a paid subscription model to be able to do it even then. (Picture: Getty Images)
The change was rolled out in mid-November, but has only just been confirmed after users began noticing the difference – with many taking to social media to express their annoyance. ‘First password sharing, now no casting. Netflix is speed-running how to annoy its entire user base,’ said one person on X, while another said they were ‘genuinely cancelling’ their subscription. Meanwhile on Reddit one user said: ‘Netflix just doesn’t want casting in any form I guess,’ while another called it ‘easily the most consumer-hostile thing Netflix has ever done.’ (Picture: Getty Images)

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Others have suggested that this is the latest way of Netflix cracking down on its users sharing content with others, after it changed the rules around account sharing. The ‘one household’ rule, which came in two years ago, now means that logging into Netflix on another device can trigger warnings or requests for a validation code unless the user pays for other devices to be added. (Picture: Getty Images)
When asked about ending the casting feature, a Netflix representative told Wired that it was due to not enough members using the function and the platform ends features that are no longer widely used to invest in those that provide more value. (Picture: Getty Images)
Netflix also ended the Apple AirPlay feature in 2019, which allowed iPhone and iPad users to cast their shows straight to an Apple or other compatible TV. That move now means users who want to watch on an Apple TV either have to connect through a cable to the television, or access Netflix directly through the TV. (Picture: Getty Images)

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